You may remember way back in July I decided to start some enzyme cleaner. A homemade enzyme cleaner that's supposed to have the magical properties of a thousand unicorns.
Basically it's a combination of water, old citrus peels and some brown sugar. You can see my original post on how to make it here. It's supposed to replace regular toxic household cleaners and do an even better job. The catch? It takes 3 months to make. It needs that time to develop and ferment.
What happens is the citrus peels produce a small amount of yeast, which in turns eats up the sugar which somehow turns into enzymes. I have no idea how. I don't really care either. Enzymes are known to be great cleaners and any products that are used for getting rid of pet urine stink are usually made of enzymes. So homemade enzyme cleaner is good.
Of course I had to try making it because why wouldn't I? It's what I do. Try things. And this was looking especially appealing for some reason. The 3 months was a pain in the ass but I've waited much longer for far less so I figured I could tough it out.
Besides. If this enzyme cleaner was as good as the people of the Internet were professing 3 months of waiting was a minuscule price to pay. According to the tribe of enzyme Internet people, once it's done, this stuff will clean bathtubs, mirrors, toilets, food, pet urine, remove brown spots from your skin and of course, warts. Yes. That is what they say.
The last thing to get people this worked up was snake oil.
Here's how it all turned out for me ...
July 6th I started my batch of enzyme cleaner. 3 months later it hadn't done a thing. No fermenting, no gassing up, no nothin. All instructions for making this stuff warned you about the fact that so much gas will be produced in the bottle while it's working it's magic that the lid might explode off. No exploding. 3 months later it was the same as it was from day one, with a little extra colour and stink.
I also knew the enzyme cleaner wasn't ready because it was incredibly sticky. Any of the sugar I put in there was still there. If the enzyme cleaner had properly fermented there wouldn't be any sugar left in it.
So after 3 months of nothing happening I added a teaspoon of yeast to my concoction. This did the trick and within a few days the bottle was bubbling and fermenting and producing more gas than Honey Boo Boo at a chili eating contest.
About 2 weeks later it stopped producing gas and wasn't sticky at all, so I knew it was done.
I measured out the recommended ratio of Enzyme Cleaner to water. All the sites that extoll the virtues of this cleaner say to use it straight for pet accidents, one part enzyme to 5 parts water for cleaning glass, and 1 part enzyme to 10 parts water for general cleaning, like in bathrooms and kitchens.
And then I started cleaning. And what did I think?
DIY Enzyme Cleaner is stupid.
I started off by cleaning some sticky windows. It didn't work. Windex did.
Then I moved onto a mirror. It worked. So did Windex and so did plain water.
Then into the bathroom I went. It did a fine job on the sink and bathtub. Just like my regular cleaner only not as good.
Off to the kitchen. Again it did a fine job on the counters and windowsills but a terrible job on the baseboards (which had some kind of grease on them).
That's where I stopped my experiment. It seemed pointless to continue because I knew ... I was never going to make this again.
It wasn't that it was completely terrible, it just wasn't worth the effort and really didn't clean nearly as well as commercial cleaners. Yes, I know ... if you lick it though, you won't die! You won't die if you lick Windex either so don't worry about it. Neither will your baby.
If you're worried about that sort of thing there's a myriad of products out there that are safe for you and your baby and your curious licking problem.
I don't know if was just me, or my particular batch but after reading what other bloggers had to say about this stuff I was expecting rays of sunshine to come exploding out of my toilet after I cleaned with it. They did not.
I'm kind of suspicous about these other bloggers and what they normally use for cleaning products if they're so impressed with this. I suspect prior to making enzyme cleaner they'd been trying to clean their homes with roadkill.
And that's basically my assessment of this DIY Enzyme Cleaner. It's better than roadkill.
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Brenda
Well the BEST DIY cleaner I know is the DE-Skunk for Dogs one which we had to use last night..ugggg.
Dawn dish soap, hydrogen peroxide, warm water and I use a bit of spectro-derm in with it....apparently works with kitty mistakes according to my lab friends as well.
Janie Farmer
Odoban is the ONLY product I have found to eliminate pet odors or any odors, not cover them up like febreeze and, it also disinfects. The lady poured ammonia onto a cloth and had me smell it. Couple of sprays of odo ban and when she held it up to my nose the odor was completely gone. Sold on it every since.
Katherine
Odoban I specifically can’t stand the smell of. And it doesn’t go away. I’ve used it on cat pee on a comforter, and noticed the cats won’t even come in my room after I use it. More importantly, I could feel my sinuses instantly respond to the smell. But I figured the horrible smell would go away. This stuff is supposed to be so safe! They say anyway. So I slept with the comforter and noticed I woke up every day not being able to breathe. My nose would be thoroughly stuffed up. My sinuses rather. It went deep, and my head would ache all the time. All this time, all of my cats refused to come near the comforter, or even in my bedroom. Finally after a week, I wake up with my head aching, my throat scratchy, and just feeling awful. And I take the comforter and throw in a trash bag and tie it off completely. (Which wasn’t even enough btw. Using industrial strength bags, I would have to bag it twice I found, to stop it from effecting my sinuses, and giving me a headache.) Anyway, my “symptoms” immediately went away. I woke up feeling normal again. I really want to know how this can possibly be sooooo safe, but it can make me so sick. Also, I washed this comforter multiple times, with regular detergent, and the smell does not go away. I ended up having to throw away this $250 comforter. Safe my butt.
Liz
Sounds like you are allergic to it. I would know because those are exactly the same symptoms I get when a cat jumps on my lap and they instantly go away once the cat and all of its hair have gone far far away from me!!
Patricia A Wonderling
You, my friend, are allergic to odoban which I tried when my cat had kidney stones and piddle accidents. It didn't work, but it did stink I wish you had been able to try it on pet urine. Smells linger
Cindy Marlow
I'm so glad you do these things so we don't have to. You are like my best friend only I have never met you (unlike my real best friend...I met her 50 years ago). Thanks, Fake Bestie!
Karen
You bet! - bff
Kathy
Karen,
This question has nothing to do with enzyme cleaners or road kill. I noticed you have an ad for ollas. Have you used any in your garden? I've read about them but didn't know if they would really work.
Thanks!
Karen
Hi Kathy - Yes, that's my latest advertiser. Lori from Texas has these to sell. I had never even *heard* of them! The concept certain seems plausible but I have never tried one myself. I'd love to though. I have a sprinkler system for my front yard vegetable garden, but there are other areas in the yard that never seem to get water even if it rains. ~ karen!
Lisa
Ollas - which is spanish for "pots" - have to be dug up in areas where the ground freezes otherwise they break. If your ground doesn't freeze, have at it.
I've used 1/2 gallon milk jugs with a million pin holes, but only in my planters.
Kathy
Freezing isn't much of an issue in Houston...unfortunately. It was 88 here yesterday...ugh! I've seen instructions for making ollas using 2 clay pots, silcone to hold them together and copper tubing attached used to fill it with water. However, the homemade version probably doesn't work as well as the ones Karen's advertiser sells. Karen...I hope there is a post if you try them!
qtpuh2tme
FYI --As a professional "Domestic Goddess" (my actual business name) for 40+ years, and for those of you that don't mind terribly using OTC products...there only 4 you really, actually need for danged near ALL cleaning issues:
Windshield Wiper Wash -- you can cut it up to 50% w/water and it'll still work wonderfully! Plus, it absolutely will not streak -- unlike Windex. (Cost -- maximum $1 per gallon.)
Comet Cleanser -- the plain 'old fashioned' mint-grit stuff your momma always used. (Cost -- usually less than $1 per large can.)
Fantastik (brand name) all-purpose liquid spray cleaner -- here again, you can cut it w/water up to 50% and it will still work, well...fantastically! (Cost -
And last, but never least -- Quad-aught (0000) steel wool. (NOT the same thing as SOS or Brillo pads.) Four zero steel wool is your BFF when it comes to cleaning large expanses of glass (shower, car, window, etc.), mirror, chrome. (NO brass -- it scratches!). Use it DRY -- never wet. (Cost -- about CHEAP!)
I guarantee it will get rid of the MOST stubborn water spots from shower/bathroom glass...and even the outside window's all-year-long layers of water spots/scum/dirt, etc. You may have to put a bit of "elbow grease" into those tougher jobs, but it will be SO worth it; cost wise and time wise. Just wipe or vacuum up the steel wool 'dust' after you've finished. Easy-peasy.
~:0)
sarah
i made the cleaner too, i really looked after that bottle almost taking it on holiday with me to ensure it didn't explode. It fizzed and burped for weeks. I was so excited when it came time to use it and nothing, it did virtually nothing. It might have helped a drain problem i had but i had to use so much of that stuff that took so long to wait for it wasn't worth it. Back to vinegar and bicarb. Though the excitement whilst
waiting was almost worth the disappointment.
Amanda Watkins
I've made orange & vinegar cleaner, and it works great.. I shared how and why here:
http://ourfunwithfive.blogspot.com/2012/04/natural-orange-vinegar-cleaner.html
No offense, but that gunky enzyme stuff looks pretty nasty!!!
Amanda Watkins
THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CITRUS/VINEGAR CLEANER AND THIS CRAZY STUFF WITH SUGAR & YEAST! :)
Kevin
Can I use this to clean veggies and fruits, and remove wine stains?
bex
Hi i decided to do the two week wait with yeast which produced the 'result' of enzyme mixture it was suposed to... Then i heard that if it smells like wine, u got wine (which i believe i had been cleaning my floors, counters, etc with) but if it smells more like vinigar then its good to go. Hmm, good old water and vinegar does exactly that. Yep, that idea got tossed!
Sam
Ha! I wonder if the huge jar of kombucha I had the bright idea of starting could double as "enzyme" cleaner (so it'd just be a big jar of vinegar at this point)? I decided to put the creepy jar next to my pumkins and torture-looking tools for halloween, so it wasn't totally wasted. Maybe you could let it ferment a little more and feed it to teenagers, I'm sure they'll like it with some kool aid or something. Ooh, how about enzyme cleaner and coke?
kate
oooh - i have been waitng to read the results of your experiment. I was hoping it would work great. I have two citrus trees - one lemon, one orange - and we get lots of peels - especially in the winter. I was hoping i could maybe even earn some extra income by becoming a small scale enzyme manufacturer if this thing worked out. The one thing peels are good for is impressing people by lighting a match and then flexing a peel so as the oil spurts out it catches fire -- poof!!!
Karen
That *does* sound like fun! ~ k
Honey
You can also make limoncello, orangecello (a word I'm fairly certain I just made up), or a combination.
Take the zest and soak it in a bottle of vodka or Everclear in a cool(ish), dark(ish) place for 1-3 months. Strain and add simple syrup. Bottle, label, and sell! Or bottle and drink yourself. I don't judge.
Danni
I too, I have a disgusting pet that required the FREQUENT use of concoctions to pull urine out of wool carpets. Yes, wool. Ten years ago when I was still worried about such things as off-gassing in synthetic carpets -- now I am worried about the organic stuff growing in the wool/jute/urine carpet in my house. But bc I have tried just about every product on the planet.... Woolite Oxy Pet works amazingly for me. It is enzymy and also works in my kids' bath that also has a stray urine 'situation' that I don't want to investigate too closely, but can spray with the Oxy and odors completely disapear. If that helps anyone... great. Pets suck.
Trysha
Skip the "OMG! This is the best cleaner. Mix vinegar and blue dawn dish soap". No. It sucks and it stinks. I'd rather use straight vinegar and have my house smell like pickles than clean my bathtub with that gawd awful mix again.
Rachel
Baaah haa haaaa..I saw the pic and thought, Oh yum, that looks good! I'm thinking it was some kind of dietary cleanse. I'm so bummed.
I have to agree with Lemurific's sentiments. Good try though, and kudos on the patience!
Claudine
"...your curious licking problem."
The best enzymatic cleaner I've used for pet mess is Anti-Icky Poo. Yes, it sounds silly, but it works very well. One of my cats was very angry with me (long story) and peed for two days on a futon mattress. There was some discoloration of the cotton, but the stickiness and smell went away very quickly. Anti-Icky Poo is recommended by veterinarians and can be purchased at pet supply stores, but is less expensive online.
Marti
As for "pinterest fail," I tried the "ammonia and hot water in spray bottle, steam ironed with a white towel" for getting rid of rug stains. Worked. Worked great, matter of fact.
Of course, that's another "please don't lick this" moments for you, isn't it?
Marti
K- you have a political ad on your site. Is that a specific campaign that contacted you or did you join one of those ad groups (like Google Adsense, only something that will actually MAKE MONEY) and it's coming through the group?
Karen
No, I have nothing to do with the ad. Who the hell are they promoting? It's either from Google or Glam. Either way, there's a new ad network on my horizon. ~ karen!
Lisa
I don't see any political ads on my view. Of course, if it's an American political ad, I cringe at putting it on a Canadian blog... but there ya go.
Shauna
Yes, I saw a political ad yesterday at the bottom of the post telling me to vote for Romney. Thankfully, I had already voted otherwise this ad on Karen's blog could have made all the difference;)
Candace
Hi Karen,
For what it's worth, "conservatives" read your site, too. Considering our country basically is at a 50/50 split, it's hardly surprising--and hopefully not too disturbing, assuming all readership is welcome by the writer.
Lindsay B
I saw a political ad too and was very surprised! Mine was for crazy pants Michele Bachmann, a MN Congressional candidate that doesn't even represent my district.
Shauna
It all has to do with what you've been searching and reading. Yes, the internet bots know that. Today, I see an ad for party standups. And, you know what? I recently ordered a party standup. And, yes, I've been reading political crap lately - go figure.
The scariest ads that are shown are the ones that pop up after I've been reading medical posts - like WebMD or something.
Jackie
FYI I saw a huge ad that seemed to be part of your post at the end (there was no box or delineation between your words and the words of the ad) and it was advertising steam cleaning for my city (Calgary AB). Because of the topic of your blog, it actually seemed like part of your post.
Jen @ Muddy Boot Dreams
So basically this is a Pinterest fail? LOL. Thanks for letting us know how it [didn't] work...
Gotta wonder if they do use road kill for cleaning...
Jen
Karen
Maybe muddy boots. ;) ~ karen
Lemurific
Leave the homemade fermentation for making some alcoholic beverages.
Lemurific
That stinks, but thanks for doing the legwork. For pet stains and smells, the Equalizer Carpet Stain & Odor Eliminator is the best thing I have found. Much better than natures miracle. It cleans my neurotic cat's messes from rugs and couches without that lingering smell. It is easy to apply too. Fricking cat.
Karen
Good to know! I'll look for the Equalizer. I too have a cat with questionable habits at times. SO frustrating. I think I tried to toilet train her too early. ~ karen
Lemurific
FYI: I can buy it through my vet or via amazon. I have never seen it in a store. That is exactly what I did with my cat. I suppose I ruined her. Plus she hates skunks and marks by the windows.
vera wroe
The remarks you made about your cat seem as if an excuse for it's behavior. Whilst you obviously need to clean the smells I would suggest you deal with the behavior. Create an area outside (it can be small) after the cat has eaten inside put "it" out in the area. and walk away (without comment). If you notice it peeing let it back inside and give it a small treat/tickle. Don't fuss if the cat goes to an area it likes to pee simply put it out in it's area immedietly, after a while establish the outside routine. Fussing or telling it off etc. is rewarding the cat for it's unwanted behavior. I hope you take my comment in the way it's intended because many owners have similar problems, remember (you must replace a behavior with an acceptable on. Regards to all Vera in Australia.
Corrie
Also a reason for your cat not liking to use the litter box is that you may have had yourgent cat declared. Instead of just removing her/his nails, you are in fact removing the toes from the last knuckle! The problem then arises when you try to return your cat back to their litter before they were fully healed or returning them to a type of litter that is too rough on their super sensitive paws! If you think this may be the case ask your vet to suggest a more suitable litter.
Karen
Hi Corrie. No. I have never had a cat declawed. ~ karen!
Deb
I'll be looking for The Equalizer as well for my 16 yr old cat with kidney disease. His accidents are not entirely his fault, but are definitely a major pain.
Angela
I also have a 16 year old cat with kidney disease. Must find this stuff!
Kathy
And I have a 15 year old cat with kidney disease, most likely due to being locked in a foreclosed house for 21 days without water or food....she's not the pisser, but her neurotic sister is...so off to Amazon I go.
I love to use baking soda as a cleaner, too, in addition to vinegar. It's great in drains (with vinegar) and well, has at least 1001 uses, according to my husband who composed an ode to Arm and Hammer....
Emily
Thank you for your test, glad I didnt have to go through those grueling months of waiting...and for nothing, ugh. Basically it sounds like homemade vinegar but even more lame right?! I will stick with good old white vinegar for my cleaning, those internet people you speak of sound wacky :D
Joanna
Well...it sounds like it didn't develop properly...maybe thats why it didn't clean well?
Jen
I agree. If it stated 3 months but then you quit two weeks after it finally started bubbling, maybe it needed 3 months from there.
Oh well, like someone else said, I like vinegar. But what I do is put my citrus rinds straight into my bottle of vinegar. When the bottle is done, I trash the whole thing, but while I'm using it, I just keep adding rinds! I mostly use it for small urine accidents, though. Beyond that, enzymatic cleaners are the way to go, chemical or not.
Eric
it sounds like you were making alcohol...not an enzyme cleaner lol. yeast + sugar = alcohol. The bubbling was a release of CO2 gas.
Yon
Add some miracle enzyme cleaner to the culture and just sugar and let it sit and keep adding water and sugar keep it warm