My Big Spring Project.
I’m Ripping it all OUT.

I remember the days when a big project involved something that would start on Friday and be done by Sunday. Ah … those were the days. When you work in an office setting (yes television hosting is oftentimes an office setting) you pretty much have to restrict your DIY accomplishments to things that take no longer than a weekend to accomplish.

That was the case when I installed my central vacuum and my dishwasher. They both took a day or two.

Then I semi-retired from television and decided to give this whole blogging thing a shot. In that time my big projects have become even bigger. How big? Instead of a weekend they usually take up the better part of an entire season. Usually spring and a good chunk of summer.

Several years ago it was redoing my entire backyard .

2 years ago it was building a modern Chicken Coop.

Last year it was ripping out my entire front yard and putting in a Front Yard Vegetable Garden.

All of those projects took months and they were all dirty. But as I begin my next Big Spring Project I’ve decided this may be the biggest and baddest yet.

 

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Now you may be thinking to yourself, “That doesn’t sound so bad.” It is at this point in our conversation that you have to trust me. Trust me like you would trust your priest. Or dry cleaner. It *is* that bad. It is very, very bad.

Ripping out these old ceramic tiles means also ripping up the cement underneath them and the wire mesh holding them in place.

It means getting rid of all the old flooring. It means a dust covered house and cuts and scrapes and using a crowbar to pull up sheets and sheets of plywood subflooring. Which then turns into pulling up thousands of nails from the floor. It means repairing the floor, installing and wiring the radiant heating. It means pouring a thin layer of self levelling concrete over the radiant heating and hoping to God, or your priest or your dry cleaner that nothing goes wrong and wrecks the heating coils.

It means levelling and gluing and measuring in order to be able to lay the commercial tiles perfectly so it looks like a professional did it. As opposed to me.

It means work. A lot of work.

The floor I’m ripping out is in my mudroom, kitchen and bathroom. Oh. Did I mention my floor at this point is so unlevel that last year I started charging admission to ride it? We call it the Twitchin’ Kitchen Roller Coaster. Two tickets please. Try not to vomit until you’re out of the park.

The floor doesn’t look all that horrifying in pictures but it is. It’s impossible to clean, the grout is all falling out and because the floor is so unlevel it’s all cracked. Plus the tiles are way too small. And I hate them. Did I mention that? I’ve hated them since the day I moved into this house.

The other problem with the kitchen is it’s FREEZING in the winter. Enter, radiant heating. I looked up a few different types and settled on Warmly Yours because they seemed to have the best customer service and they had an office in Canada.

In addition to doing the floors I’m also going to be doing a mini-overhaul in general. The mudroom will get a new cleaner look with an Ikea wardrobe, a place to hide shoes and a mix of rustic country and clean contemporary. Maybe some gold glitz as well.

 

BEFORE

mud-room

 

AFTER

mud-room-after

 
 
The kitchen will get a new coat of paint, possibly a new table and also possibly a new lamp. I’m also going to pull things out and shove as much insulation into wherever I can.
 

Kitchen
 

Kitchen 2

 

The bathroom will get new everything. New toilet, new vanity, sink, storage and new fixtures.

And did I mention we only have one bathroom? So picking the exact right moment to pull out the toilet for several hours will be a bit of a crapshoot. So to speak.  My budget is $5,000.  Which is actually twice as much as I think it should cost.  That way there shouldn’t be any surprises.

Other than what I end up finding under these 140 year old floors.

Some things to note before I leave you to start on my Big Spring Project.

1. I have never ripped up a ceramic tile floor before.
2. I have never laid down radiant heating before.
3. I have never poured self levelling concrete before.
4. I have never laid commercial grade vinyl tile before.
5. I have never done anything this stupid in all my life. At least not since last spring.


136 Comments

  1. JudyZ says:

    Commercial vinyl? You should do yourself and your indoor air quality a favor and research good old fashioned linoleum instead. Beautiful to look at, and not nearly as toxic as vinyl.

    • Karen says:

      I’ve looked into it. I’m pretty sure as long as I don’t grind up and eat my VCT tiles I’ll be O.K. Linoleum is too expensive, not nearly as durable and marks. VCT is easier to lay, less expensive, and has colour throughout the entire tile so if you scratch it, there’s no harm to the tile. ~ karen

  2. Candace says:

    I have anxiety just thinking about this project. I’ve been reading some nasty things recently about vinyl flooring being hazardous too…
    But I love the black and white checked look! Good luck!

  3. michelle says:

    http://www.forboflooringna.com/Commercial-Flooring/Products/Marmoleum/

    cool option:
    Available in sheet and tile, this eco-friendly linoleum is made of natural, renewable materials. Marmoleum is naturally anti-static and antimicrobial, making it easy to clean and ideal for allergies and respiratory disorders. 25 year residential warranty.

  4. JudyZ says:

    Yeah, I can understand there is a not insignificant cost difference. Best of luck with the project! (I have asthma so I am extra sensitive to air quality issues, potential outgassing, etc.) I love the idea of the radiant heat, too!

  5. Laura says:

    I wish we could all come help!

  6. Jenn says:

    My advice on the radiant heating: make sure it works before you install it. We have a very expensive slate floor in our bathroom that’s only lukewarm, thanks to a faulty product that’s imbedded right beneath it. Can’t exactly take it back.

    • Karen says:

      Jenn – I’ve already ordered the heated floor and it comes with a circuit checker for every mat. You attach it as you’re laying down the floor and if the alarm goes off you know something’s wrong. Yay. ~ karen!

  7. Alisha says:

    Hazardous schmazardous. Oxygen is hazardous. Welcome to the industrialized world. I wish you best of luck for this project Karen! I *expletive* HATE tile. I especially hate grout. I have a kitchen counter made of white ceramic tile and grout. I stopped even attempting to keep it white when my SO broke a bodum of coffee on it. Exercise in futility. I can’t wait to see your results!

    • Karen says:

      I too hate ceramic tile. Much too cold for my kitchen and much too hard for the amount of walking around and cooking in the kitchen I do. ~ karen!

    • cred says:

      Arrrgghhhh! I haaaate ceramic too for the reason you both mention. The grout sealer makes a huge difference (just had to re-colour and seal ours), dirt cleans right up BUT only one your hands and knees as you wipe between the tile. I want a completely smooth surface that can be cleaned from the end of my mop.

      Best of luck, Karen! We did a similar job in our 60 yo house. Ripping out was so back, maybe a whole weekend for a similar sized area. But yes, layers and layers of random flooring beneath, even wood wall panelling as subfloor- wtf.
      I’ve never laid vinyl tile but I redid the entire kitchen and dining room in ceramic. I hate laying it as much as I hate living with it. But I didn’t know any better at time and we’re selling this year and the new owners can enjoy cleaning grout on their knees and picking up smashed dishes every other day.
      I can’t wait to see how it looks when you’re finished. I’ve never seen the mudroom before- doesn’t look bad as it is (less the flooring). But I can’t wait to see it after- I love mudrooms.

      • cred says:

        crap! I should comment before I’m finished my first cup.

        I meant to write- “ripping out wasn’t so bad….”

  8. Woman you are crazy!!! But it’s awesome that you are going to DIY. We have vinyl tile in our home that we replaced the carpet with and we love it.

    • Karen says:

      Adrienne! I know of no other way. In fact, up until a month ago I really thought I was going to hire someone to do this job. I figured I’ve earned paying someone to do something for once in my life. You know? Just being able to sit back, hand out the cash, and watch them do all the work. I don’t know what happened to that plan exactly. Clearly I abandoned it at some point. ~ karen

  9. Marti says:

    I had no idea the horror you were living with. I feel so much better that you’re doing this. I just know that your feet, as well as The Fella’s feet, will be far better off… months from now.

    It’ll be fun watching you do all this. 🙂

  10. Raymonde says:

    Karen, I’m in a similar boat!
    This summer I’m redoing the house I still have in town to put it on the market come fall…
    It’s a HUGE job.
    First of all I have to empty the house, then paint every wall, lay down tile, paint the fence and the terrace, sand the hard wood floors and seal them, etc..
    That’s not even counting what my trusty handyman will be doing… His list is 18 jobs long and I’ll be his assistant… Help!!!

  11. Sara says:

    One day long ago, soon after college, I randomly decided I was done, done, done with the linoleum in our house. Me to my hubby: “I want to rip up the linoleum. I’m going to paint the concrete underneath. I saw it in a few design magazines. It’s going to be cute.” Him to me: “Cool. I see no problem with that if I can get high speed internet (we were young and cheap, the internet was still a bit of a novelty and we didn’t have it yet at home).” Me: “Done.” I proceeded to attempt to pull up the linoleum, only to discover I was only strong enough to pull up about 6-10 inches worth near the wall…basically enough to ruin the floor, but not finish the job. As soon as I pulled it up, I suddenly realized why some people do not pull up their flooring on a whim. As it turns out, we, in fact, did NOT have a concrete floor. We had a lumberwood floor lurking underneath our linoleum, because WE HAD A BASEMENT below our kitchen!! Yes, professionals came to finish the job, we quickly sold the house soon after, and we’ve had high speed internet ever since.

    Here’s to better luck for you and your floor!

  12. Diane says:

    I really hope you are thinking about doing a bit of tutorial with this project. It sounds like maybe that self-leveling concrete is the best thing I can do for our laundry room… washer on an un-level floor… so much fun!

    • Karen says:

      Diane – Yup. Each step will be getting a step by step tutorial, from laying the radiant heating to pouring self levelling concrete and laying down tiles. ~ karen!

  13. Laura

    Monday, 15 April, 2013 at 0:21
    I wish we could all come help!

    Just for the record…Ummm, no. I am COMPLETELY content to sit in my comfy chair and watch, far, far away!

    I really hope this works well for you and your frustration level stays a a minimum.

  14. Cathy says:

    Okay Karen, I may be way out of line here, probably. Have you checked out Sawdust Girl’s blog? I don’t for a minute doubt your abilities. I am in awe of you because I’m at that point in my life (ok, age) where I hire the heavy stuff out. I need to keep my job (nurse)a few more years and all the standing, moving 300 lb patients (300 is the new 200 in USA) & running around have taken a toll on my back.
    This lady and her clients are as impressive as you are.
    By the way, I thought I was the only one with chemo lawn.
    Cathy

    • Karen says:

      LOL. I don’t know this Sawdust girl but I’m sure she’s good. I’ll figure it out on my own the way I normally do. If I can build a coop, I can rip of a floor. I think. 🙂 ~ karen

  15. Kim says:

    You will LOVE heated floors. I have them in my bathrooms…and, for three-quarters of the year, they are my favorite rooms in my house!

  16. ruth says:

    I was actually more worried when you were kissing cats on the mouth. At least you can get professionals to help you with the reno if things go astray. As far as cat kissing goes – you’re on your own there.

  17. trish says:

    Karen good on you girl…..but as an aside we did radiant heat in our ensuite the tile over it is Mexican slate////I love the feel of it but I sure didn’t like the increase in my electric bills!!
    I now turn them off most of the summer (basically unless it is truly freezing they are set as low as they can go…..or my electric bill went up by 25 % and this room is not big….the story I get is about thermal mass and different depths in the Mexican tile but really the efficiency was non existent….feels lovely costs way too much…just my experience and a heads up!!!

  18. Kat says:

    Rip’er all out… that floor IS hideous… and that’s all I have to say about that!

    • Karen says:

      Agreed.~ karen

      • Jen says:

        But I would NOT suggest black and white checkerboard tile. I have it and it looks BEAUTIFUL for exactly 30 seconds after you’ve cleaned it and then SHOWS EVERYTHING. I thought I’d love it but it does nothing but anger me.

        • Karen says:

          Trust me. It will be a dream after what I’ve lived with for 14 years. I’ve wanted diamond laid black and white floors since I was 16 years old. I’m gettin’ em. 🙂 ~ karen

  19. Sia says:

    Oh you courageous woman.

  20. Jamieson says:

    Oh dear.
    Well if anyone can pull this off, it’s you.

  21. Laura Bee says:

    You won’t believe this, but I have five or six cases of that tile in my basement. I will be following closely. I wish you well.

  22. Erica Filpi says:

    This has the backyard redo beat.

  23. Jill says:

    I wish more homeowners would research things like you do. I work in floor covering sales, and most people have NO idea what is involved in doing a project like this the right way (they complain about the labor cost on my quote until I give them a blow-by-blow of all the crap the guys are going to have to deal with). And VCT is an awesome product for a residence…most people don’t even think about using it in their home, but I recommend it all the time. My one word of advice (and you probably already know this because you’re smart like that) is to make sure you acclimate the vinyl tiles in the house (with climate control on) for a few days before installing. Good luck!

    • Karen says:

      Hi Jill – Yup. I’ll let the tiles sit for a couple of days. I can’t wait for the commercial tile. It’ll be the perfect look. ~ karen

  24. Ann says:

    We have had a lot of problems getting contractors to come work on our house, being it is out in the country. So we are thinking about a kitchen remodel which we may have to tackle ourselves. And damn, it is getting harder with each passing year to do those down on the knees type jobs. So Karen, do it now while you are still young enough and agile enough to get into those awkward positions.

    I love the commercial tiles. Although, having worked in a hospital all my life, I realize they can get chipped and broken. So keep a good number of both colors of tiles so you can replace broken ones if necessary over the years. And radiant heating is something I would love to have. But if money were no issue, I would have poured concrete floors with radiant heating.

  25. Susan says:

    Piece of cake! Well ripping out the ceramic will not be easy! Moving all your cabinets, appliances and all those shoes will be hard. That plywood won’t be too hard but laying the heating mats will be easier. Vinyl tiles…commerical grade? Heavy, thick, durable and stinky when gluing them down. Make sure you seal them afterwards or they will stain!! The self leveling concrete? Easy! Time consuming but easy. Make it thin and it runs where it’s needed. The next morning you find a whole bunch more spots where it’s needed so you have to do it all over again! Oh and find another bathroom …cause you can’t walk on it when it’s drying. Done all of this before…most recently in my shop. A huge job and hard but a beautiful floor is most satisfiying!! I swore I would go nuts the first scratch on my hardwood but… It just adds to it. I love my floor! Good Luck!

  26. Sam says:

    Go Karen! May the tile-concrete busting force be with you… you’ll love the heated floor, even though it’s a pain in the ass (although I’d say it’s a pain in the face from all the squinting and brow wrinkling involved–and maybe some hand slices from the stupid guide strips)… But yeah, totally worth it 😉

  27. Molly Sue says:

    You are going to ROCK this mad, mad, mad … mad project! And we are all going to sit out here in the interwebs and watch and say “Oh My Gaga, how is she going to manage this next bit?” And then come winter I will be pea green with envy when you have radiant, in-floor heating and my flat with stone floors is colder than a witch’s hoo hoo. Be sure to gloat; you will have earned it. ~molly

  28. Jack says:

    As you are aware Karen I am now officially listed in the actuarial charts as “an old fart” but in days prior to having this designation heaped upon me “projects” were my life……3 full basement developements, a dancing school developement, and the repair of a faulty electric toothbrush. My words of wisdom to you……have a three olive martini just before you start with two or three more as the day wears on. There is no amount of stress that cannot be overcome by the juice of an olive coursing through your veins.

  29. Thera says:

    The black and white vinyl works beautifully, but on occasion you will get a scuff mark on the white, just keep a Magic Eraser handy 🙂

  30. Mary Kay says:

    Well Karen – I have been down the remodel path and unless it is simply cosmetic – not going down it again – EVER! I have worked in the construction business most of my adult career and I have to admit I love a good project as long as I am not LIVING in it.

    My only question is – you have to glue down the vinyl tiles (make sure you ventilate well) is the radiant heat going to cause the tiles to lift over time? I love radiant heat floors – it is a wonderful option – best of luck to you.

    BTW – make sure you swap your slippers for tennis shoes during construction – don’t want a stray nail to end up in the foot during a midnight snack!!

    • Karen says:

      Hi Mary Kay – I did some research and discovered that you can indeed lay commercial tile over radiant heating. I was under the same impression as you … that it couldn’t be done. But with these tiles and the particular brand of radiant heating I’m using it can! I was unbelievably excited when I found this out! ~ karen

      • Mary Kay says:

        Karen – that is great!! Good Luck with the install – demo is always the fun part!! Can’t wait to see photos of your remodel!

  31. Lynne says:

    Want warmth ? Want character ? Want affordable ? Did I just sound like an infomercial ? Last year, we bought old barn boards from local company who sells it finished or unfinished for flooring. It was affordable, you can install it yourself and it is dang sexy ! The company is out of Markdale. It absolutely looks freakballs awesome. Our house is an old house too (100 years old) and it is the best thing we ever did. We, of course, sanded all the chicken poop off of the boards, LOL (you can relate to that 🙂 and then finished them. They have such character and warmth to them. They are available in all kinds of widths and lengths. Seriously. Epic. Gorgeous. xx

    • Karen says:

      Love barn board floors, but this house already has 3 different woods on 3 different floors on the main level. Yet another type of wood would be toooooo much. They are super nice to walk on though. Oh! And this kitchen is beyond being warmed by wood floors. It’s built on a concrete pad and in the winter is ICE cold. ~ karen!

    • Patti says:

      Hi Lynne! I want barnboard, but I want it because my husband and I want to make a new dining room table this year. I’m not too far from Markdale, and I’m up that way all the time – would this company sell barnboard for this purpose, too? And, if so, who are these wonderful people?

  32. Mary Werner says:

    What cha gonna eat with all that demo? OUT? HA But seriously, I didn’t know that you could put vinyl over a heated floor – thought it had to be ceramic. Can’t wait to watch and read about the work you are in for. I was going to say progress but won’t count your chickens until the eggs hatch. Oh yeah, and where ya gonna pee with all that demo? Out with the chickens? I really do admire you!

  33. SuzyM says:

    Every confidence in you and your abilities, Karen. I love your drive, your spirit and attitude. If anyone can do this, and do it well, it’s you. Any doubters should take a peek at last year’s veggie garden. What a triumph!

  34. Ashley says:

    There are lots of other inexpensive flooring options that look far better than vinyl tiles. I know lots of people who have installed vinyl (both DiY and professional) and they just look cheap. Kind of like when people install laminate floors then say “Look at our hardwood floors!” They don’t look anywhere near like real hardwood (which our house is lucky enough to have from the 50s) and it just looks like a cheap alternative. Plus after about 5 years the corners of the vinyl tiles tend to start curling and can get ripped up (most common is from DiY projects, but I’ve seen a professional install do that too). I don’t think you have any stamped concrete options with radiant heat, but you might be able to install a plywood floor on top of the radiant heat, paint it, and then overlay it with a clear epoxy. The benefit to that would be no seams for water to leak through. Also most vinyl tile installations I see still use grout to give it that “real ceramic tile” look. Were you just looking to install it without grout?

    • Karen says:

      Hi Ashley – I think you’re thinking of commercial vinyl tile. They definitely don’t look cheap and they absolutely don’t peel. They’re solid, hard tiles that are 1/8th of an inch thick, with colour throughout the entire tile. ~ karen!

  35. Debbie W. says:

    Wow you are crazy and brave! But that is why I love to read your blog and live vicariously through you!! Oh how I wish I had your moxy for raising chickens and ripping out tile flooring!! Cannot wait to see your end results! Oh and by the way – great spread in latest issue of Style at Home! When I flipped it open, it fell right away to this lovely backyard, I thought to myself “ooooooh I LOVE this backyard, let me read this and take it all in!” And then I realized it was YOUR backyard, and was quite excited! lol Yup, I’m a loser and that is how I roll!!

  36. gogothrift@etsy.com says:

    You are an inspiration!!!! I can’t wait to be a part of this (on the sidelines watching, of course).
    I know there will be ALOT of laughter and I’m sure some tears (on your part). Wish I could actually be there to help.

  37. Diana says:

    I can’t wait to see your finished work! I have decided that you can do anything you put you mind to, especially you! Enjoy the hard work, it is always so worth it! 🙂

  38. marilyn says:

    well karen if anyone can do it its you or perhaps your sister..so you go girl..if i can help in any way..

  39. Amy in StL says:

    When I was fresh out of college in the 90s, I pulled out the bathroom floor in our new1920s bungalow,, but I didn’t know enough to expect a concrete floor. Then cutting the commercial grade vinyl tile was a trip, I’m not sure how many box cutter blades I went through, but I was glad to be finished. I wished I had installed radiant heating that first winter, did I mention I started this a month after moving in? Good luck, you’ll need it!

  40. RuthyJ says:

    There’s another Ruth around here? Imagine that… I’ll be good ol’ RuthyJ from here on in to avoid confusion…

    I’ll be watching it all from a distance, with the soles of my feet firmly planted on my very warm tropical tiles. No splitting of fingers please… my heart can’t handle another super glue patch. *sigh*

  41. Deb J. says:

    Atta go Karen! Big job but you can do it. Might want to consider renting a portapotty or chemical toilet for a few days when it comes to the bathroom:). And a black bag hung in the sun makes a reasonable shower. Good luck. Glad it’s your back and not mine.

  42. Nicki Woo says:

    I’m very excited for you and everything. . .but I’m stuck on CENTRAL VACUUMING. I only just found out that such a thing existed a week ago, and now as fate would have it you mention it in a post. And dare you say it took you only a weekend to complete??!!???? I’m going slighty bonkers over here. I vacuum a lot. And I’m thinking I’m about to do some research and install me a vacuum that is central(sorry for my country type. It just comes out of me sometimes). You are changing lives chica. Changing lives:)

    • Karen says:

      Hi Nicki – I think central vac. must be more popular in Canada. I grew up with it so it’s been around for … ahem … quite some time. But I’ve had the odd person from The States say they have never heard of it. I got my unit at Costco. I think it was around $600 and depending on your skill level and the layout of your house, it’s pretty easy to install. Or … have someone else install it for you. 🙂 ~ karen!

      • taria says:

        all the houses in my aunt’s so cal neighborhood were built with central vac’s in the late 60’s so they are around. I too hate ceramic tile. I don’t get why everyone loves it so. if you cook at all it is tough to stand on. I am looking forward to watching your work progress. my heart goes out to the fella. : )

  43. Laura says:

    I put the exact same vinyl tile in our family room 11 years ago. It was carpeted, as we as a family can destroy a carpeted room in about six days (three dogs, hordes of teenagers, etc.) Despite the well-represented hazards of v.flooring,it was easy to lay and gave us that vintage-y look. It wore like iron. Just sold that house, but I’d use the product again in a heartbeat. I also topped a craft table with leftover squares.
    You can do it!!!!

  44. Natika33 says:

    Wow! Can’t wait to see how this transpires!

  45. Shelly McKay says:

    Fantastic!! Looking forward to reading all about it! This fall I am ripping out the master bathroom & I really want to have heated floors…..will have to check out Warmly Yours 🙂

  46. Patti says:

    Ooooh! This is so exciting, Karen, and I’m excited to see it all unfold.

    It’s also EXCELLENT to know because I had ceramic tile in my last apartment, and ADORED it, so I’ve always said I wanted to install in in my kitchen (I currently have a cheap vinyl which looks filthy no matter what I do to it – but we rent, so I’m stuck), because it was so easy to clean, but reading how much you hate it makes me think twice!

    • Karen says:

      Patti – Most people like ceramic. I’m just not one of them. Cold, hard, dirty grout … I like something that sweeps easily and is a bit softer and warmer. ~ k!

  47. Julie says:

    Good luck! We (and by we, I mean mostly my husband) recently completely redid our gross laundry room and made it a half laundry, half bath. It took more than twice the time we exprected and more than double the cost (mostly because we didn’t already own a lot of the power tools needed, but we wanted to have them regardless). We also installed in floor heating and went with True Comfort. Kind of wish my husband had chosen the mat kind like Warmly Yours because when he gently stepped out of the room after finishing the coils, he accidently unhooked one right in the MIDDLE of the room. It was nearly impossible to get enough space to rehook it and a lot of swear words were said.

  48. Ashley says:

    We renovated our only bathroom last February. We only slept one night at my in-laws place. The rest of the time that we were without a toilet? Let’s just say that I’m glad we live rurally.

  49. Kristina says:

    My parents installed (well, paid someone to install) the commercial vinyl tiles for their kitchen and bathrooms maybe… 4 years ago? It still looks great and the bf who worked in construction throughout high school was even impressed. My parents are also a little tickled that they have the same brand of tile as the local workout gym’s floor, which also still looks great years after installation. I think you’ll be pretty happy with it Karen!

  50. jackie says:

    This is minor, but I was so stoked to see your link-backs to old posts. I only started reading you about 6 months ago and I feel unless I search and search your blog, I’m missing some coolass info, esp when I’m redoing my yard this summer (first summer in my eyesore;). Cool! G’luck with all this, and I know what you mean about weekends. We also put in time between 5:30pm-7pm after work, it’s brutally inefficient but what else can ya do with a toddler and 2 ft jobs!? Oh wait, most would hire someone…riiiight.

    • jackie says:

      PS: The nail-pulling will go quick. I developed a swift way of doing it in my 110 yr old house that caused severe leg pain for 2 days following, but meh. Also, I used Revere Pewter in my house. Not sure about you, but it was way too dark and reminded me of plain drywall. Ended I like it more now that it’s spring, but since you seem to like more whites, just a warning. I repainted everything to Abalone which was still drywall-y but not so bleh in my house. http://www.benjaminmoore.com/en-ca/paint-color/abalone#ce_s=abalone

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