THE ONLY DRYWALL ANCHOR YOU SHOULD EVER USE

 

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I know.  It’s a big, scary looking thing but once I explain it, it’ll be about as scary as a chocolate covered cotton ball.

Which is actually incredibly scary. You’d think it was a nice round chocolate you were biting into but inside would be horrid squinchy cotton.  Like running fingernails down a chalkboard but for your teeth.

So, we’ve all been there I’m sure … hung a nice full sized cow on our wall only to have it fall down in the middle of the night, scaring the farts right out of the cat.  It happens.  But it doesn’t have to.

For some reason people are under the impression that hanging things on the wall is frightening.  I think it’s the whole things falling off of the wall scenario we’ve all lived through.  But that’s only because you’re using the wrong drywall anchors.  I’ve used them too.  I’ll admit it.  Those plastic coloured anchors that you hammer into the drywall.  You keep screwing and screwing your screw into it and it just keeps spinning and spinning because it isn’t actually grabbing onto anything.  But you hang something off of it anyways even if it doesn’t seem like it’s going to work because you paid for it and installed it and can’t think of any other way to do it.  Then your cow falls down.

It’s because those plastic anchors aren’t really meant for drywall.  They’re usually meant for solid walls like concrete.  They *can* in certain circumstances be used for drywall but you’re taking your chances.

Enter the hollow wall anchor.  In this case the classic “Molly Bolt”.  THESE are the only drywall (sheetrock) anchors you should use.  They are the best.  How do I know they’re the best?  Just ask Bessie.

These are my favourite anchors. Yes there are others like screw in anchors and toggle bolts and a bunch of other things, but these are my favourites so that’s why I’m talking about them and telling you to use them too.

When you buy a box of Hollow Wall Anchors there are 3 things you need to look for on the box:

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What to look for in Hollow Wall Anchors

  1. Make sure what you’re buying is indeed a Hollow Wall Anchor for drywall.
  2. Make sure they’re the right size for your drywall.  This box is good for drywall that is 3/8ths to 5/8ths thickness.  (there are other Hollow Wall Anchors that are for very thin materials like hollow doors)
  3. Note the size of the drill bit that they recommend you use and make sure you own one!

Also best to make sure you own a drill.

 

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Mark the place on your wall where you want to hang something.  Using the right sized drill bit, drill your hole.  DON’T go wiggling all over the place with your drill.   Hold it stead and drill straight in and pull straight out.  If you wiggle you’ll actually drill a larger hole.

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Take the Hollow Wall Anchor out of the package and hammer it straight into the wall.  You don’t have to adjust it or fiddle with it or anything.  Just whack it in there.

 

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If you look back up at the first picture I showed you you’ll see that there’s tiny teeth under the flat edge of the anchor.  These will grip into the outside of the drywall so make sure you hammer it in good.

 

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Now you get your screwdriver and start screwing the screw in. I know it looks like it’s already in (and it is) but what you’re doing at this moment is creating Hollow Wall Anchor magic.
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As you screw the screw in, a sort of flange is being pushed out at the back of the drywall.  The more you turn the screw the tighter and tighter the flange gets.  Just keep turning until you can feel some good resistance.  It may take a while and you might get bored.

 

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Once you’ve screwed it in to the point that you feel the resistance of the flange (I’m not really sure that’s the right word to be using) against the back of the drywall you can start unscrewing the screw.  Again.  Totally boring.

I recommend doing it by hand though and not with a drill because you don’t have enough control over the drill and if you screw your Hollow Wall Anchor in too tightly you could end up squishing your drywall and ruining it.  Just do it by hand.  Super exercise for your wrist anyway which will come in handy the next time you slap someone.

If you’re only hanging a mirror or picture then you can just pull the screw out enough to get your wire picture hanger over it.

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If you’re attaching something to the wall like a bar or TV mount you might have to remove the screw entirely and then, yes, screw it back in again.

And don’t worry.  Undoing the screw doesn’t do anything to the flange.  It stays rock solid.  That baby’s in your wall for good now.

Seriously.  To remove it you have to just hammer it into the wall and cover it up with drywall compound.  Yes. I know.  That’s scared you even more.  You will now never hang anything on the wall again.

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You say that now, but one day you’ll be driving around the countryside, hit a cow by accident and then what?  How do you think you’re going to hang it?

I hope you paid attention to all of this because tomorrow I’m going to show you something you’re going to need this little Hollow Wall Technique for a DIY I’m posting about on Wednesday.

A DIY that one year ago saved my life.

83 Comments

  1. Paula says:

    I concur – they are the best. Haven’t lost a pic yet…

  2. Judy D. says:

    Thanks so much for explaining how to use these anchors. They’ve always seemed really confusing to me because I had no clue what was happening ‘behind’ the wall. Your pictures made it so easy to understand. Now I can get started hanging up all the crap I’ve stored in my guestroom closet. 🙂 ~ ~ Judy D.

  3. TucsonPatty says:

    Thank you, thank you! I’ve always tried those stupid little plastic thingys and they don’t work!! I will be looking formthese things at Ace next time I’m in there.
    Hey, I just went to thw auto parts store and bought new bulbs for my rear window brake light and replaced them. I feel like a fricking genius! It’s the little things, yeah?

  4. Patt says:

    I know it’s a learning curve but in deference to those of us over 55 can you please lighten or enlarge your text on your new site! I can barely read it.

    • Sherry in Alaska says:

      To enlarge the text in any post: Use Control Plus…… Simply press the ctrl and + keys at the same time. You can do this until the text is the size you want and when you want to go smaller, use ctrl and – keys simultaneously.

      • whitequeen96 says:

        Wow! It worked like magic! Thank you for such a great tip – I’ll have to tell all my friends!

      • Karen says:

        Thanks Sherry! The way things are with a post having to look different on so many different types of screens it’s *really* hard to get it to look really great on all of them. There’s always going to be a bit of an issue with one of the devices. ~ karen!

      • Sheryl Powell says:

        Well, why did no one ever tell me that before? Forget DIY stuff how about more DIY my stupid computer stuff?

    • Karen says:

      Hi Patt! Because the text has to work on 3 different types of screens nowadays (phone, tablet, laptop) it’s difficult to get a size that works for every scenario. You should be able to adjust the settings on your monitor/phone to increase the size of the font you see. Hopefully! ~ karen

  5. Jan in Waterdown says:

    Hmmm . . . any idea why some of your pics are teeny tiny and others are huge? The tiny ones are like thumbnails and the huge ones are, well, pretty big. Also the titles in bold print are stretched out horizontally. Weird.

    • Jan in Waterdown says:

      Ok well that was even weirder . . . the second I posted my comment above, everything was ok, although some of the print still looks a little stretched out. Maybe I should just have another Jack Daniels or go to bed or both.

    • Karen says:

      Um. No. NO idea actually, lol. What are you reading on? Phone? Tablet? Vertically? Horizontally? I assume it has something to do with “responsive”. ~ karen!

      • Jan in Waterdown says:

        iPad mini, horizontally . . . husband claims I am the only person who uses it horizontally. I don’t have a smart phone or want one, I proudly use a “vintage” flip phone. Guess that makes me an old gal, apparently lol. Btw, what do you mean by “responsive”?

  6. Rick Bradley says:

    Whenever I hang a cow I use the hollow wall anchors. For lesser tasks the Nylon Phillips Drive Drywall Anchors are quite reliable.

  7. Agnes says:

    Thanks Karen, now I know what to put on my Christmas list! 🙂

  8. MissChris from SA says:

    Aha, now I know how to use those megafties – thank you!!!

    • Irene says:

      Haha, MissChris! 😀
      Only a fellow South African knows what you’re talking about; you may as well have said “Those dingetjies”. 😛

  9. Julia (mumo3kids) says:

    Did you know that drywall/sheetrock is called plasterboard in the UK? I sometimes fantasise that I move to Canada or the US, but then have a lot of trouble doing any diy because of the language barrier…

    • Karen says:

      Well, you’re best moving to Canada if you have the choice. You stand a much better chance of winning spelling bees here. ~ karen!

  10. Teri says:

    Oh NO! You don’t DARE do this to me when I am already fatally insomniacly tired from an epic multi-Gulf-Island Ferry hopping wind-and-rain-storm infused 3-hour tour that turned into a 12-hour event just to get to my son’s wedding. A joyous event (although slightly grayed by #1 son’s seasick siblings and really poor holiday rental beds). 3 nights of bad beds and never slowing minds, including incredible joy and increasingly painful sleeplessness, I arrive home to read this:

    “I hope you paid attention to all of this because tomorrow I’m going to show you something you’re going to need this little Hollow Wall Technique for a DIY I’m posting about on Wednesday.

    A DIY that one year ago saved my life.”

    GREAT, you. make me lie in bed imagining all kinds of drywall and hanging disasters. Guess it beats lying in a very old rental accommodation bed cursing the springs and worrying about my new daughter’s mother… but still…. REALLY?
    Now, I know that you aren’t old enough to be familiar with Saturday morning movie cliffhangers (I’m not old enough, either). However, my 85-year-old mom has told me stories. Clearly, you have missed your vocational calling…
    I shall now attempt to sleep until Wednesday

    • Karen says:

      Teri! Teri! Wake up! Are you awake?! WAKEEEE UPPPP! See you on Wednesday. 🙂 Also nothing says festive occasion like sea sickness. And I know. I once spent Christmas on a cruise. ~ karen!

  11. Christina says:

    To remove the molly bolt, you don’t need to hammer the entire thing into the wall. You can remove the metal lip with a pair of pliers, and THEN you can push the rest of the bolt into the wall (to live forever with the dust bunnies). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foO5NM4pmsU

    • Karen says:

      I watched the video Christina and I kept thinking … But why? Why go to the bother of removing the disk if you’re just going to push it in anyway? Then I realized that this way the whole anchor would fall down the wall and disappear forever allowing you to fill the entire void in with drywall compound. If you don’t care about getting rid of the entire anchor then doing what I say and just tapping the bolt into the wall a tiny bit and filling with drywall compound is fine and faster. But if you want to get rid of the whole thing for some reason, this is a good way to go. ~ karen!

  12. MaggieB says:

    Just want to say – Lurve this community. How do you work out the weight limit for hanging assorted bovine and porcine beasties? Our problem here are wild boar – which always gets me humming Duran Duran – oh well. Looking forward to Wednesday.

  13. whitequeen96 says:

    Ahhh, now I get it! Thank you, Karen. You wouldn’t how many sleepless nights I’ve spent pondering this mystery! 😉

  14. Brook says:

    Excellent! That will be great for the basement. Do you have any suggestions for hanging livestock on plaster walls? My poor walls are completely bare.

    • Karen says:

      I do. I’ll do a post on hanging things on plaster or brick in the future. ~ karen!

      • Brook says:

        Whoohoo! Looking forward to it.

        In the meantime, I’m choosing to view my naked white walls as Scandinavian serene. And to hang light artwork on doors using clipped-off wreath hangers.

        I just don’t want to relive the horror of a massive chunk of wall crumbling into the living room. On the up side, though, I was able to confirm that ancient New England plaster really did have horse hair in it. My current house is only 75 years old, but after that experience, I’ve been too nervous to try it again.

      • Nancy Blue Moon says:

        Oh yeah…brick…brick please…I need to know how to hang things on brick!!!!

      • Shauna says:

        Thank. Like. Thumbs Up. I have lathe and plaster. There is always a lot of cussing when hanging things on our walls.

      • Shannon says:

        Oh yes please, for those of us who have 100-year-old plaster and lathe walls. I have used some similar anchors to what you show here (and the cheap crappy ones for light things) but sometimes I’m afraid the whole wall will come crumbling down when I least expect it.

  15. Sandra Lea says:

    How do I know how thick my drywall is so that I get the right size?

    • Jennie Lee says:

      I wondered about that, myself, once. Next time you have a hole drilled in your wall, take a flashlight and look inside it. If it’s a neatly drilled hole, you can see how thick the drywall is. Be aware that sometimes your exterior walls have thicker drywall than your interior walls.

    • Karen says:

      Excellent question! For me it was easy because I had a hole in my closet behind the wall I was drilling into. I could literally just stick a measuring tape into the hole and measure it. And that’s what some people will have to do. Drill a hole in their drywall so they can see and measure the thickness. BUT if your house was built a few decades ago the standard drywall thickness then was 3/8ths of an inch. Homes built recently would have 1/2″ thickness. These bolts are good for a range of drywall thicknesses so as long as you get a bolt that has a reasonable range you should be O.K. Another way to tell the drywall thickness is to pop off a piece of baseboard and see if you can get a measurement of the drywall from there. Your drywall won’t go all the way to the flooring so you should be able to stick a tape in there to measure. ~ karen!

      • Cindy says:

        I have an old house that wasn’t always an actual house with drywall over plaster and have just been “creatively” hanging things at stud points. Any ideas for how I can hang things wherever I want?

        Also, I use neodymium magnets to locate studs which is awesome. I attach magnets to all of the screws, top to bottom, then drop a weighted line down the center to split all of the differences so I can hit the center of the stud, which is fun and pretty handy but I’d really like to be able to hang things wherever I want. Any ideas?

  16. Karol says:

    Yay! I actually know what a Molly bolt is and how to use it! … and have installed them in multiple houses. We have moved a lot (18 addresses before this one) and I have a large, heavy mirror that needs the strength of a Molly bolt to stay securely in place.
    Nice tutorial, you little blue eyed thing, you!

  17. Sally says:

    I don’t wanna post jack you, post block you, or whatever term should be used, but if you are looking to hang something less heavy duty, the even lazier route are monkey hooks, they are amazing! I use them all over my house, well technically only on the inside walls since you can puncture a houses vapour barrier using them on outside walls. all you do is poke it in the wall and they hold up to 25lbs per hook, the heavier duty ones hold more. I even have my bathroom mirror hung up on these bad boys after it fell down off those cheap plastic anchors, and miraculously didn’t break. So worth checking out!
    http://amzn.to/1kZtv3B

  18. christine hilton says:

    Were you in Children Of The Corn?

  19. Lisa says:

    and….. to remove them, take an old screwdriver and a hammer and punch it through the wall. Let it fall down behind the wall – there is no way to reuse them.

    Now you have a hole the size of a dime that you have to patch, but I think Karen did a DIY on that already…. right?

    Also, there’s a little stabilizer hook thingy that is in that package. When you’re trying to get it started expanding, sometimes it spins around until it catches. There’s a little weird hook thing in there that enables you to hold the anchor in place until it gets going.

  20. Denise says:

    I sit on my potty and look at the holes left in my sheetrock from a failed towel rack attempt. I live in a very old house with shiplap walls so I’m not accustomed to nails not holding. This particular wall is the result of a remodel. Just Saturday, I started looking for the proper wall anchor. Yea for you and your post. I’m trying it today.

  21. Mary W says:

    Question: I have set up all around my little house, all the things I need to hang. They have been sitting under or near their intended place for almost 6 months now. I hate to nag my son-in-law and he has been so busy but I’m so afraid I will run a screw or nail into wiring. I know where all the wiring is since I took pictures of it before the dry wall went up but can’t find the pictures. I see the light switches and plugs so I know where the wiring is suppose to be but what if it goes sideways — I’m still chicken. Those screws look soooooo long, and my cow will needs hanging before the holidays just in case I want to string him with lights. Suggestions?

    • Jennie Lee says:

      There is a thing you can buy, called a stud finder. Some of them also sense where wires are, in the wall. Something to remember: you need to know where the wall studs are. If you’re putting in a screw where the wall stud is, you’ll drill a smaller hole, because you won’t need a wall anchor. You can’t put a wall anchor where the stud is! But then, you don’t need to!

  22. Erin says:

    CLiffhanger! Augh!

  23. Karin says:

    ooooooh, I love your hammer, looks super sturdy. for some reason i always manage to kill mine. perhaps i should trade up some, perhaps i should seek help for my anger issues.
    the last one i killed trying to get rid of some ice on the roof… *hackhackhack* i went, *floop* went the hammer head into the bushes below. meh.
    either way, thanks for the very helpful post. the husband will have no clue what i’m talking about, but that’s aright. we know now, ooooh yesssss, we know…

  24. Carol Hogan says:

    The first thing ever, I think, that you posted and I already knew. I am so proud 🙂

  25. Maggie says:

    Any tips for plaster & lathe walls?
    I just bought “triple grip” cobra anchors because trying to mount ikea Hugad bay window rod system became an exercise in frustration this weekend, but haven’t tried them yet.. seems similar but plastic.
    First screw would not go in at all (predrill hit a scary mysterious *something* and would go no further, second screw hit nothing and was completely loose.. I will buy anything that works.

  26. Jennie Lee says:

    Thanks, Karen, for explaining one of the most confusing-looking DIY products known to man. I must say, however, that for most things you hang up, those colored plastic drywall anchors are fine, and hollow wall anchors would be overkill. If you’re just hanging up a wall calendar, for instance. The easiest thing to do is to buy a little box of about 40 anchors and 40 screws. They give you the right size anchor for the screws, and they tell you, on the box, what size hole to drill. I’ve never had a problem with them. Then, any time you have the urge to hang something, you’re all set. They come in different sizes. Just use a bigger one to hang a bigger object. But for heavy things, like mirrors, draperies, or cows, break out the hollow wall anchors.

  27. Nancy S in Winnipeg says:

    I’m with Maggie. My 90 year old house has lathe & plaster walls. Are the plastic thingies OK for them?

    • Maggie says:

      I’ve been experimenting, and so far the plastic ones have only worked in certain situations. These metal ones Karen posted work the most consistently, and never break apart when nailing them into a more solid section (as the plastic ones sometimes do).

  28. Maryanne says:

    Hi Karen,

    Great post – I’m a touch more confident, but my problem is more that I’m scared of messing up the drill. Maybe I’ll get there one day.

    BTW – what lovely eyes you have 🙂

    Hope you are enjoying the extended fall – what’s it done to your garden?

    Maryanne

  29. Lauren says:

    I hung a grouping around my 46″ flat screen so the TV wouldn’t dominate the wall, and it’s always been a tidge off because I thought the mirror had to be hung on a stud. Now I can fix it! And I learned how to patch a large drywall hole to boot. You explain things way better than the menfolk do Karen. Waaaaaaaay better.

  30. nancee says:

    Thank you for the photos along with your explanation. I learn to do things mostly by watching. I remember my mother always telling me to “be sure to read the instructions!”
    I usually just studied the diagram/pictures and did just fine.
    But it’s putting a big old hole in the wall that scares me.
    Thanks for making it look a bit easier.

  31. Nancy Blue Moon says:

    Ok..I am not afraid to try this myself anymore!!..The last time I hung a cow the damn thing mooed all night..It was nice to reach up there and squeeze me a fresh jug of milk every morning though…looking forward to a new DIY…

  32. Cussot says:

    Great little tutorial. Nice novel title, too – Resistance of the Flange.

  33. Pat Kichinko says:

    “Something scaring the farts out of the cats” is now my absolute favorite expression. We have eight cats, so it could get pretty bad here. EEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

  34. Mindy says:

    Yes, those are a BITCH to get out. I like to find the tiniest nail in the house, and hope for the best. 😉

  35. Mark says:

    You are right about those plastic “anchors”. My name for them is “a scourge on the GDP”. They belong in the trash. Seriously.

    You are also right about Molly bolts. They are intended for things you don’t want to remove. They can be removed, but it’s not quick. I don’t know how many times I have had to repair drywall where someone bashed a big hole trying to remove one, or else clumsily mudded on top (true story!). In this context, anything more than zero is “too many”.

    My go-to wall hanger are these (link below) that I get from Home Depot. They come in several sizes, in plastic and metal, do not require pre-drilling, are easy to install and remove with just a screwdriver, and hold a lot of weight. https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.papc-6-e-z-drywall-anchor-wscrews.1000427287.html

  36. Diana says:

    Blue eyes, baby`s got blue eyes… trallallala… Was the first thing on my mind as I saw your photo;o)

  37. Kurt says:

    Post your address. I want to send you a more proper hammer for home use. (Hint: it’s not a ball-peen.)

    • Karen says:

      That’s O.K. Kurt, lol. I have many, many hammers. That one was my father’s and has sentimental value.~ karen!

  38. David says:

    This is probably the most “it actually makes sense” kind of post I’ve seen on on this subject. Awesome! PLEASE keep posting new material!

  39. Beth says:

    What didn’t I do wrong? I drilled the hole, tapped on the molly gently until it went into wall, and ended up screwing the screw completely through the drywall making a hole!

    • Beth says:

      *What did I do*

      • Karen says:

        I’m not sure Beth, I’d have to see what you’ve done. I’m not sure if you know how to take a photo and attach it to a comment, but that would help. Do you mean you kept screwing and screwing and ended up smashing through your piece of drywall? ~ karen!

  40. Kevin Crawford says:

    I’ve worked in the home remodeling and handyman industry for years. These are the worst anchors ever. That is why we only see them used in places that are really old when they have been there for decades. Technology has passed them by. Repairing walls in the wake of these are also a pain. There are much better products out there these days.

    • Karen says:

      I too have worked in the home remodelling and handyman industry for years and respectfully disagree with you. ~ karen!

  41. Scott Crawford says:

    Had mixed experiences with these over the years. Often in softer drywall the small teeth wouldn’t grip and it would just trash the wall. Until I found this.
    https://www.amazon.com/Silverline-Wall-Anchor-Setting-Tool/dp/B000ND6V7K

    Change your life!

    • Karen says:

      Interesting! I will admit it’s sometimes hard to judge when to stop setting the anchor before it starts crushing the drywall. I may order one and review it. 🙂 ~ karen!

    • Scott Crawford says:

      You just unscrew the fixing head a little, clip it into the gun, push it into the hole and squeeze the trigger. It pulls back the screw and squeezes the fins into place.
      Saves complication and fatigue of my poor little wrists!

    • Dave Mennenoh says:

      I agree these are strong, but I seem to always have issues with getting them started. Those little teeth just don’t bite into the wall enough and end up just spinning and leaving a groove in the wall. I’d love these to work all the time as I like the strength, but I typically won’t use them.
      Going to go check out that anchor setting tool now…. Holy Wow! Just watched a video about the setting tool. Amazing. Ordering one now – cause home depot doesn’t have them in stock.

      • Karen says:

        Hi Dave. It could be that you aren’t getting the right size of anchor. They come in different sizes for different thicknesses of drywall. That’s the trouble I had with them when I first tried using the years ago. Once I figured out the whole testing the wall thickness before buying the anchors things got better. 🙂 ~ karen!

  42. John @ UBS says:

    Amazing work Karen! This all comes with experience and just like some of the readers have asked when to stop. It’s very hard unless you are really passionate about that. ha ha!

  43. swadhyayaa says:

    Hello Karen,

    I am getting a vertical long radiator fitted on the wall and following are the spec:

    1. 15 KG radiator
    2. Plus I would say another 30KG water in it.

    So total say 50KGs for example.

    Now the wall is a drywall/platerboard.
    The guy who has come to fit it has FISCHER SELF-DRILL PLASTERBOARD FIXINGS METAL:
    http://www.screwfix.com/p/fischer-self-drill-plasterboard-fixings-metal-35mm-100-pack/47347

    And I am now confused what to choose between molly and these. Please advice.

    • Karen says:

      Hey there. I’d go with what the installer has recommended. I’m sure he knows what he’s doing. Although for something like that I would probably be installing it into studs. ~ karen!

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