Dear men,
The ladies and I are going to discuss lady things today. And quite frankly I don't think you men are woman enough to deal with it. So please enjoy this video of a Monster Truck rally while we discuss Diva Cups.
Years ago I was wandering around my local health food store looking for cheese making supplies. The store is in a very old building in town complete with creaky wooden floors. It's the kind of place that, even though it isn't very big, you can't help but wander around. It feels serene, and calm and cozy being in amongst all the bins of coconut flour and raw nuts.
This particular day there was no music playing in the store and the only sounds were the shuffling of feet, the sound of scoops hitting the bins and those wonderful creaking wood floors.
And of course my screaming. My top of the lungs, tonsil revealing, primal screech.
You see, as I was wandering the aisle of essential oils and organic soaps I came across a site so shocking that a bunch of terror got all mangled and twisted inside of me until it forced its way out through my mouth in the form of a scream. A scream was better than a massive toot I suppose.
What I saw was the Diva Cup for the very first time. It had to be 12 years ago and these were not well known. I learned they were one of apparently many brands of "Menstrual Flow cups". Now, I had no idea these things existed and I can assure you my scream wasn't a scream of excitement. It was a scream of horror.
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What is a Diva Cup?
Staring me in the face was a clear silicone cup that was meant to be pushed up your hoo hoo and extracted when it was full of your womanly deposits. Basically you're turning yourself into a human Dixie Cup dispenser, only instead of water or Kool Aid the Dixie cup is filled with the blood of your menstrual flow.
It looks like the nipple of an overbred dog.
I immediately thought it would make a great post topic but couldn't bring myself to buy the thing. I just couldn't.
Fast forward to 2014 when I heard a couple of people, for some reason, mentioned they had used and loved the Diva Cup. I found this hard to believe, what with it being a silicone cup that held your period blood like a cherry cordial.
So I went out and bought myself a Diva Cup. I did so without screaming, all in the name of science.
The benefits of the Diva Cup are the low cost of $32 for almost a lifetime of use. They were $25 when I first tried it in 2014 by the way. So that's about the price of a few boxes of tampons/pads. Even though they're made from silicone which does not ever, ever biodegrade, the makers still claim it's better for the environment than flushing/disposing of the thousands of bleached tampons we go through in our lifetime.
Read this post on the only kind of toilet paper to use if you need a reminder on why you shouldn't flush tampons by the way.
Welcome to my menstrual Diva Cup adventure.
This is how it all went down.
Just days after buying my Diva Cup I felt that tiny little cramp in my gut letting me know I was a grown up lady woman.
Turns out I had just eaten too much Shepherd's Pie. But two days later the cramps were back and the main event was on its way.
Since inserting the Diva Cup involves pushing it into yourself with your fingers, I wanted to make sure I got in there before my fingers came out covered in uterine lining. So into the bathroom I went, armed with the Diva Cup, a full sheet of instructions and very clean hands.
How to Use a Diva Cup
To insert the silicone cup you roll it up until it's small enough to fit. There are two sizes. One for women under 30 and one for women over 30. The over 30 cup is bigger. I'm assuming the makers figure at that age we're so stretched out down there you could drive a train though us because these cups are BIG. Intimidatingly so.
But I rolled it up and got it where it's supposed to be. Once you get it up there you grab the base of the cup and twist it 360 degrees. This ensures it's fully open and suctioned to your insides. I managed to accomplish this on my first try and was desperate to tell someone about it but there wasn't anyone around.
I wasn't terribly worried about losing it up there but that seems to be a fear for a lot of women. Not to worry. It won't get lost.
So there it was. The Diva Cup. In my vagina. Wayyyy up in my vagina. Turns out the Diva Cup is actually more comfortable to wear than a tampon.
Why? Because it stays in place.
Have you ever noticed that after wearing a tampon for a while it tends to decide it'd like a good look at the world? It slowly starts working its way down towards the door until it's just a strong sneeze away from flying out of you.
The Diva Cup doesn't do that. It's obedient. The Diva Cup stays where the Diva Cup is put. More on that later. You really can't feel it at all. There's no itching, or pulling or attempts at escape.
So far so good with the Diva Cup. Did I mention it has handy measurements on the side of it you can see exactly how much fluid is in there? Because it does. Incredibly useful for anyone who likes to keep track of how many ounces of blood they shed a month. These are probably the same people who keep their scabs in a jar and have a laminated bowel movement chart.
You can wear the Diva Cup for 12 hours at a time at which point you have to take it out ... and empty the reservoir. This is where the Diva Cup lost me. Removal was difficult. Very difficult. I'm sure it gets easier with time but it was slightly painful and kind of like pulling a turkey out of your nostril.
In fact, when it finally popped off I’m pretty sure my nose whistled.
But that wasn't the worst part. The worst part was emptying the blood streaked cup of woman goo into the bathroom sink and rinsing it out.
I know this is where a lot of you will be thinking "How awful for Karen that she's so out of touch with her womanness that such a thing bothers her. A woman's period blood is a miracle of life to be revered and marvelled at.".
I know there are those of you thinking this because that's exactly how other women who reviewed the Diva Cup describe the experience as. They liked the cup dumping. It fascinated them. You know what fascinates me? Magic Tricks.
I couldn't bring myself to put the cup in again and instead put it back in the box and slipped it to the back of the cupboard.
The one other caveat to the Diva Cup that even those who love it say is an issue, is public restrooms. If you need to empty your cup while at the mall or your favourite local restaurant you'll need to dump the cup in the toilet, pull up your pants, get yourself back together with one hand because the other hand will be holding the blood stained Diva Cup.
Once you're back together you'll need to dart to the sink and wash out your cup in the public restroom sink, all the while your face getting hot and your pits getting sweaty worried that someone will wander into the bathroom to a horror show.
Is your cup rinsed? Good. Now it's back into the stall to reinsert the Diva Cup.
I just couldn't handle it. But I have to say there are many of you who will be able to handle it. You'll think it's great and life changing like the other women on the Internet. Like the 10,000 people who reviewed the Diva Cup on Amazon with almost 5 stars. The women who say they couldn't live without it.
To you I say, you're more woman than I. I have no doubt you also would have handled donating blood far better than I did. It's a bit blurry but as far as I remember my blood donation involved a prayer circle and a stretcher. You can read about that proud moment in my life here.
Do I recommend the Diva Cup? Yes. That probably surprises you but it just wasn't for me. I know it wasn't for me because I got gaggy and almost fainted. So there's that. I know that other women won't be bothered by it at all.
And to you women I have one more thing to say. Please don't try to change my mind. Please don't try to convince me I didn't give it enough of a shot. Much like Brussels sprouts, it won't matter how many times I try it ... I'm never going to acquire a taste for menstrual cups.
As luck would have it I am currently moving out of my Diva Cup years and into my coffee cup flying across the room and exploding into shards as it hits the wall because I can't sleep and am so tired years.
I resisted the urge to use my Diva Cup as a change purse and eventually threw it out.
I now buy my cheese making supplies online.
Amy in Stl
Every time I read something about one of these menstrual cups I just think, EW EW EW EW! I'm on a birth control pill that reduces my periods to 4 a year and after more than 20 years, my flow is greatly reduced. However, I can't imagine how gross a cup of blood is! Also not sure how pulling out a tampon and flushing it is just as gross, as some cup devotees say. I can't fathom the bacteria introduced to your hoohoo if you wipe it out and reinsert instead of washing with hot HOT soapy watery first. That seems unsanitary, but maybe I'm just too fastidious.
Michelle Mecey
If you wash your hands before you remove, empty, and replace it, then the only bacteria present are FROM your vagina and you're just putting a few back where they came from. When you get the hang of how to break the suction seal without hurting yourself (it takes a few times), you can just tip it into the toilet and reinsert it. Wipe yourself with toilet paper, as you would every other time you pee. The cup of blood is, in my mind, much less gross than using pads and having it exposed to air for several hours and pressed up against your skin.
gabrielle
I want to point out that this is not a new product that has been conceived by women, for women, new-age or otherwise. I grew up in the States quite a while ago, and can absolutley testify that this product has been marketed once before, in the male-dominated early 1970's. Well before silicon was what it is today.
And you know what? My experience was exactly the same as yours. Removal was so unpleasant that I could not bring myself to use it again, especially since tampons (like most things) cost a fraction in the US that they do in good old Canada! But that's another rant...
I can't remember what name the cups were branded as the first time around - I am sure it will come to me out of the blue in two days - but they were an utter failure and vanished from supermarket shelves. So, here we are, a full 40 years later, and someone (probably a guy again) came up with the idea that if it sold at earth-mothery health food stores, it'd be a success.
Interesting fact: in the sexually permissive 70's, it was first marketed as an innovation from oh-so-swingin' Sweden.
The more things change, the more they remain the same!
J-Kat
I believe the first ones were called "Tassaways." I used them in 1971, after I got my first IUD, and then they disappeared.
About 20 years ago, right before I started menopause, I used cups called (I think) "Instead." I'd insert one, wash out the old one and let it air dry until time to change again. I was having constant, heavy periods, sort of a last hurrah, before I stopped altogether. It was nice not having to worry about going through a tampon, and I absolutely hated pads and pretty much stopped using them when I was 14.
Cynthia Earle
I'm finished with the whole period thing at 63, but back in the day there was a product called Tassaway that I tried and for all intents and purposes was the exact same thing. The damn thing was an obomination! I'm surprised nobody has mentioned spilling the contents all over your hand, struggling to keep the dripping thing away from yourself as you struggle to pull up your pants with one hand and leaving a public bathroom stall looking like a murderess who dropped her knife down the loo.
dana
Oh, by the way, these Diva Cups are mentioned on many of the frugal sites i follow. So are family cloths. I really doubt you want to review that. Its not a product really. Its a way of not spending money ever again on toilet paper. :|
dana
Im puzzled by the over 30 & under 30 sizes. Im 43, have a daughter but havee never been preggers. Is that why the size difference? Or did my hoo hoo double in size at 31? Weird. Seriously I WOULD FREAK OUT trying to get it out! I have short fingers, too. Was told by my cousin that with my short fingers I could never play piano. What if I couldnt get it out? I would go to the emerhency room. Reading the rotating it 360* part made my tummy do a flip flop. This product is not for me. Washing it out in the sink wouldnt bother me. Its the in & out thing. And the worrying abt it for 12 hours thing. It sounds akin to what my mother said about babies when i was younger & I got it many years later: Babies are easier to get in than get out. ;)
Stephbo
Am I the only redneck who followed the link to the monster truck videos first? I love monster trucks! Cups of woman goo? Not so much.
Kathy
OMG, Karen! Last night you had me crying and tonight I am laughing my ass off. This post just might have to get shared on Facebook. If only because I feel selfish keeping you all to myself...... oh.... and the previous 31 women who seem to have discovered you too.
Love ya, girl.
marli
I wish I knew about these when I was younger, but I'll take my later days with it instead of pads, thanks very much!
I managed to get my 18 year old to try one a year ago. Imagine, a 17 year old girl using a Diva Cup. Was she thrilled? Absolutely NOT. But I told her I'd not buy her tampons anymore, that was going to be a cost she'd have to pony up...OR...I'd buy her a Diva Cup.
She grudgingly took me up on my offer and a year or so later, she's a convert. Actually it only took about two months to convert her, they really are that good. So she'll have her entire bleeding life to use a cup rather than tampons, minus the one or two years when she first started. Lucky girl. :)
Sorry you hated it so. Maybe you'll try again. I mean, you DID push it to the back of your cupboard. Had you thrown it away entirely I'd be sure you were done with your experimenting. Now? Not so sure. :)
Judith
Haha!! I had almost the exact same reaction, right from the start, as you. It was a complete impossibility for years. Then one day I just thought why not and gave it a try, and I couldn't be happier with it. There's definitely a learning curve, but I love it. Kudos to you for trying it out!
Chau
My question is if you can pee while wearing it? I don't like tampon so this might not be for me.
marli
Yes, you can, and you don't have to remove it.
Brenda
Yes! The Diva Cup (the exact one she's talking about) has a little stem on the end of it to grab on an pull with, but it's tucked just enough "in" that you can't feel it at all. Been using this for 10 years - wouldn't go back!
liz a.
not a chance in hell! lol! :)
Agnes
I am also happy to support a Candian company- the Diva Cups are made right here in Waterloo, ON!
Agnes
Karen the product link you gave is not for us Canadians! Mine cost me $40 at the local drug store.
Like many of you have already addressed, I too got over the "gross factor", and much prefer it to pulling out a slimey tampon or changing big diaper-like pads a few times a day.
I've def worn mine longer than 12 hours with no problems...so public washrooms are never an issue.
Only thing I would say is that sometimes I can feel it shifting around..anyone else experienced this?
I am so proud that you gave it a try Karen!
ktr
I've felt mine shifting on occasion. For me it happens when I haven't gotten a good seal so I just rotate it a bit more and that usually solves the problem.
Glad to hear someone else wears theirs longer than 12 hours.
I've been told that tampons aren't good for septic tanks so that was one of my motivating factors in trying it.
And as far as grossness - I personally think bloody tampon applicators and pads in the bathroom garbage can are worse.
TucsonPatty
You must Never Ever flush a tampon. Never. I have a septic tank and it isn't good for that, and I have spoken with the head of the water treatment plant in my town, and they absolutely despise tampons being in our water treatment plants.
Simply wrap them with just a bit toilet paper a few times, and toss in the garbage. No one will know. No one is going to know. ; ) Empty the garbage more often or get a can with a lid. Please only flush bodily wastes.
I'm too old for the Diva Cup, and never got around to trying it, but I would have! I sure wish there was something I could use now, instead of the damn pads I have had to begin wearing again! This time for dribbles of pee!! That is a terrible waste and expense and smelly and I hate it and don't want to take a pill to dry me up and kegels don't work for me. I hate getting old. The end.
Kris
Good for you for trying, Karen, but I have to agree with all the ladies that are pro Diva cup. The comments on the ease of use are all true, but no one has touched on how much better they are for your body too. Tampons are bleached cotton that has been sprayed at one time with pesticides, and they actually make it look like you bleed far more than you really do. Ask any diva cup user, there is typically less blood than you would have thought having used tampons. Good for the environment, good for your wallet and really good for your "hoohoo"! Come on Karen, don't be stubborn, try it again!!!
Cred
I've used the Keeper brand for nearly 16 yrs. The Keeper is made of natural rubber but for those allergic to latex, they also offer a silicone version. Two of my sisters use diva cup.
Way more comfortable than tampons and doesn't need to be emptied as often. To me it feels cleaner- I love it.
I've never had any problem removing it- perhaps the large size is too big, regardless of age- I understand the sizing to be dependant on whether you've had a vaginal childbirth or not. Sometimes inserting it can be tricky early in my cycle (I wonder if vaginal tissue is somewhat swollen initially, since it not a problem on the second day) You want to make sure that "your parachute is fully deployed" while rotating it into place- that baby needs to make a good seal.
Looooved your review!
Mandy
I have been using the Diva cup for 6 years and love it. Soooooooo convenient. Ditto with what the other ladies have said so far who have used one. When it comes to removal the trick is to release the suction before removing by simply pinching the bottom slightly. Otherwise yes, it will feel like you're trying to turn you uterus inside out. Measuring you're menses can be handy, especially for ladies with a heavy flow. It might sound gross re removal, but not as gross as constantly disposing of old pads and napkins. I rinse and repeat twice a day, same routine as brushing your teeth. It's very comfortable so it doesn't feel like you have your monthly at all. If you can feel it after insertion then take it out and try again. I have a friend with a very heavy flow who needs to empty several times a day, but she swears it is better than wearing leaky pads that feel like napkins. If you're worried about public toilets then carry a spare cup in your bag and a little plastic baggy for your original cup to be rinsed out later. No different to carrying around extra pads/tampons. I could not recommend this product more. Having said that, it is not everyone's cup of tea. You do have to be comfortable with your own body and fluids. It took me a year to decide to use one after a friend had recommended it to me, then wondered why I had waited so long.
Darcy
"it's not everyone's cup of tea" ...lol
Laura C
I'd like to see a U.S. TSA agent see that sip lock baggie. Just sayin'.
Laura C
zip not sip.
Vanessa
I've had mine for 7 yrs and it's brilliant! Best thing ever when camping and traveling bc it can stay in place for so long and remain comfortable. I found it to be equally as gross as tampons (since those are really covered sponges :S) but over time, no mess. It does get soo much easier to use (it took me 3 cycles before getting used to it). Definitely recommend!
Hayley
I am SO with you on this one! I'm all for natural products, composting, reducing carbon footprints, blah blah blah...But pulling a cup of clotty, bloody, uterine excrement out of my lady parts and cheerily sloshing it around my sink is the grossest thing the hippies have come up with. I have NEVER in the 22 years of having periods have understood the "it's so wonderful to be a woman" part of bleeding out the cooch. Then again, I am one of the rare females who is also repulsed by babies. I'd like to opt out of the whole reproductive business and just keep the pleasure part! ;)
Maria
Haley? Exactly! Laughed myself silly, thanks Karen :)
Maria
Well, not exactly repulsed. They're adorable, until I decide that they should, nay, MUST return to the people that made and birthed them. :)
Lynne
I'm with you all the way Hayley. Actually my friends and I often joke about that brochure we received at school when approaching the fateful day. "It's Wonderful Being a Girl". Not. It might have been wonderful for the sponsors of that brochure (Kotex, I think) because they envisioned the next 40 years or so of gleefully selling you ever more expensive feminine hygiene products - but for those of us actually afflicted with the annoyance?, not so much.
I've always looked at those Diva Cups somewhat askance - imagining that my experience would probably follow the general trajectory of Karen's. Pardon the TMI - but I always had heavy periods with heavy cramping and the heavy aspect only increased over time becoming a real pain in the patoot over the last 10 years of it. I would probably have been dumping those cups a darn site more frequently than twice a day.
No thanks. I was squicked out enough as it was.
TucsonPatty
I am laughing so hard and reading the comments and laughing and want to see you pull a turkey out a nostril and I think I bought one of these once and if I tried it I now am old enough I forgot the horror you had. I think it might be a reminder of childbirth or something when you pulled it out????
This is the funniest thing ever and I am so impressed you plowed through the trial and ERROR!! for all womankind.
I'm kind of a hippie/granola type, but I'm glad I don't do those womanly bodily function things anymore.
Yay, menopause!
Karen, you are the funniest and bravest person I know! You are my hero! (ine!)
Bee-Naz
Oh Karen.... I was laying on my living room floor to relieve my back pain and was in full on giggle fits at this post! My boyfriend was silly enough to ask and promptly left the room when I started explaining! He should have known better...
I'm glad you tried it. I have had mine for years and love it! I actually had more problems with inserting/removing mine than you seem to have had but I was determined to not use tampons anymore so I didn't give up.
I don't however dump mine in the sink. That may gross me out too. I empty it into the toilet followed by a quick flush and proceed to rinse it in the sink. There was a bit of 'Eww' factor to begin with I guess but it doesn't even phase me anymore. Also, since I can wear it so long without 'issues' I have only had to ever use a public restroom to remove, rinse and re-insert a handful of times. The times I have I simply took some wet paper towel into the stall with me and gave it a good wipe then rinsed properly when I got home. All that said, it is NOT for everyone. I've had girlfriends thank me for converting them and others who vow to never try it. At the end of the day, my hoo hoo is way happier for it. No more yeasty problems for this hoo hoo!! ;)
Either way, the giggle fits were wonderful. Please don't ever stop being you! :)
AbracaDebra
One word; Hysterectomy!
At the age of 30 I was bleeding so heavily on a monthly basis that I couldn't leave the house! My bloody "woman goo" ran down my legs and that was with tampons and pads at the same time! My Gynecologist finally agreed that this was abnormal. After the total hysterectomy, TV commercials for tampons and pads were reminders of my past life, and I never missed them! However I'm not certain how the Canadian healthcare system manages situations like this!
Cred
Yep, this would be covered by OHIP in Ontario. If doctor considers it a abnormal health condition and recommends a hysterectomy. My mom had the same problem and had a partial hysterectomy (just the uterus was removed) when she was 43. Because they left her ovaries, she didn't require hormone replacement.
Lynne
Yep, one of my best friends had a hysterectomy in her late 30s for the same reason. She'd always had problems and they reached the crisis stage after her third child.